Shoreham is eight miles from Brighton in southern England. Left, west as you drive/look south. Maps from sea on Google seem to show Shoreham in East of Brighton.
Initial reports said there were an estimated 11 dead. It is thought that the numbers may rise to twenty.
The 1952 accident at Farnborough killed many spectators and led to the ruling that planes could not do stunts above watching crowds.
I have read through several news accounts and numerous comments. I am not an expert, and have not had time to cross-check all facts, but to save myself time re-reading, I am recording and sharing with you the suggestions I have seen so far which suggest facts which could be checked.
1 Suggested possible accident causes:
pilot error,
plane malfunctions,
birds,
pilot's age or health (for example: blackout/stroke),
cross-winds,
flying too low,
unable to fly higher because of changed routes of planes from Gatwick.
2 Dangers:
flying over crowds,
flying near roads,
flying old planes/vehicles,
older pilots,
distracting road users.
3 Arguments for action and comparisons:
Stunts/ air shows take place over sea at: Bournemouth, Lowestoft.
4 Arguments against action:
Pilots know the risk.
Spectators choose to watch and stand nearby.
You cannot legislate for health and safety because life is risky.
You would not want to ban all travel and entertainment.
More people die on the roads.
5 Arguments that Health and safety is inadequate.
Arguments that health and safety rules are applied unevenly (some argue that therefore rules should be tighter, or applied to cases where more serious dangers occur).
5 Arguments that few fatalities occur:
Last major incident was 1952.
6 Arguments that many, too many similar accidents occur.
Soem accidents kill pilots but not pedestrians.
Recent (2015) accidents in UK and Switzerland.
7 Arguments for two pilots.
8 Claim that the plane was a one-seater plane so two pilots impossible (unless you adapted the plane).
9 Questions as to why pilot did not bale out?
He was trying to right the plane either, to save others, by instinct.
10 How did the pilot survive the fireball?
The plane split, separating the pilot at the front from the petrol tank at the back.
Planes are designed to split like this to save the pilot.
Question: why was the plane carrying so much fuel?
11 Who risked their lives to pull out the pilot?
The emergency services.
The fireball was the rear of the plane which was detached and in another area.
12 Objections to people tweeting about traffic delays instead of sympathising with deaths.
(But relatives of missing would be relieved to hear their loved ones might not have died but simply be held up. Drivers and passengers are entitled to know the cause of the traffic delay and how long they will be stuck. Other people are obliged to explain why they are late or missing, and entitled to know so they can plan meals and toilet stops or re-route their journey - and keep out of the way to not delay emergency vehicles and other traffic.)
13 Objections to those red arrowing messages of sympathy.
Responses defending objections to condolences on news pages are that 19 pages of condolences are too much for people to read in a newspaper. Condolences and first person personal reaction messages such as (I cried over my coffee when I read this news report) belong on Facebook on privacy sections for your family. It might be useful to know that local schoolchildren are upset, or that memorial services are being held. But repeated condolences merely echoing others fill the comments pages. (Better to simply click to show numbers agreeing would be sufficient).
Repeats distract from useful news. Condolences take up so much space that the newspaper moderators use up their time allowance and close the site. The result is that readers are unable to add useful updates from elsewhere such as recovery or demise of victims, names of those involved, or accident statistics from similar events, information on traffic diversions and places to phone about the missing.
1952, Farnborough, England. 31 died. Aircraft de Havilland.
Aug 23 2015. Shoreham, near Brighton, England. Aircraft Hawker Hunter from 1950s.
For information on missing relatives call 101 or 01273 470101.
To supply images, email images to
shoreham.aircrash2015@sussex.pnn.police.uk
For more information on Shoreham plane accident go to:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3208226/Shoreham-airshow-plane-crash-disaster-did-pilot-run-sky.html#comments
I don't know about accidents to bystanders, but another article suggests that as many as 11 pilots have died since 2000, including one last month.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3208409/Calls-air-safety-rules-reviewed-police-warn-death-toll-Shoreham-crash-disaster-rise.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/shoreham-plane-crash-airshows-may-face-safety-restrictions-after-regulator-promises-review-10468474.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/shoreham-plane-crash-police-plea-over-graphic-images-of-air-show-accident-10468118.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-34038479
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34032142 Previous UK air crashes.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/23/shoreham-air-show-crash-first-three-victims-named
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviation/11818191/Plane-crashes-at-Shoreham-Air-Show-Live.html
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Shoreham-by-Sea,+West+Sussex/@50.8375902,-0.2736546,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4875909d813fd7e7:0x9e685269ab8c33c2 (Google map of Shoreham and its proximity to Brighton.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoreham-by-Sea
http://www.shorehamairshow.co.uk
Angela Lansbury, travel writer, author.
Initial reports said there were an estimated 11 dead. It is thought that the numbers may rise to twenty.
The 1952 accident at Farnborough killed many spectators and led to the ruling that planes could not do stunts above watching crowds.
I have read through several news accounts and numerous comments. I am not an expert, and have not had time to cross-check all facts, but to save myself time re-reading, I am recording and sharing with you the suggestions I have seen so far which suggest facts which could be checked.
1 Suggested possible accident causes:
pilot error,
plane malfunctions,
birds,
pilot's age or health (for example: blackout/stroke),
cross-winds,
flying too low,
unable to fly higher because of changed routes of planes from Gatwick.
2 Dangers:
flying over crowds,
flying near roads,
flying old planes/vehicles,
older pilots,
distracting road users.
3 Arguments for action and comparisons:
Stunts/ air shows take place over sea at: Bournemouth, Lowestoft.
4 Arguments against action:
Pilots know the risk.
Spectators choose to watch and stand nearby.
You cannot legislate for health and safety because life is risky.
You would not want to ban all travel and entertainment.
More people die on the roads.
5 Arguments that Health and safety is inadequate.
Arguments that health and safety rules are applied unevenly (some argue that therefore rules should be tighter, or applied to cases where more serious dangers occur).
5 Arguments that few fatalities occur:
Last major incident was 1952.
6 Arguments that many, too many similar accidents occur.
Soem accidents kill pilots but not pedestrians.
Recent (2015) accidents in UK and Switzerland.
7 Arguments for two pilots.
8 Claim that the plane was a one-seater plane so two pilots impossible (unless you adapted the plane).
9 Questions as to why pilot did not bale out?
He was trying to right the plane either, to save others, by instinct.
10 How did the pilot survive the fireball?
The plane split, separating the pilot at the front from the petrol tank at the back.
Planes are designed to split like this to save the pilot.
Question: why was the plane carrying so much fuel?
11 Who risked their lives to pull out the pilot?
The emergency services.
The fireball was the rear of the plane which was detached and in another area.
12 Objections to people tweeting about traffic delays instead of sympathising with deaths.
(But relatives of missing would be relieved to hear their loved ones might not have died but simply be held up. Drivers and passengers are entitled to know the cause of the traffic delay and how long they will be stuck. Other people are obliged to explain why they are late or missing, and entitled to know so they can plan meals and toilet stops or re-route their journey - and keep out of the way to not delay emergency vehicles and other traffic.)
13 Objections to those red arrowing messages of sympathy.
Responses defending objections to condolences on news pages are that 19 pages of condolences are too much for people to read in a newspaper. Condolences and first person personal reaction messages such as (I cried over my coffee when I read this news report) belong on Facebook on privacy sections for your family. It might be useful to know that local schoolchildren are upset, or that memorial services are being held. But repeated condolences merely echoing others fill the comments pages. (Better to simply click to show numbers agreeing would be sufficient).
Repeats distract from useful news. Condolences take up so much space that the newspaper moderators use up their time allowance and close the site. The result is that readers are unable to add useful updates from elsewhere such as recovery or demise of victims, names of those involved, or accident statistics from similar events, information on traffic diversions and places to phone about the missing.
1952, Farnborough, England. 31 died. Aircraft de Havilland.
Aug 23 2015. Shoreham, near Brighton, England. Aircraft Hawker Hunter from 1950s.
For information on missing relatives call 101 or 01273 470101.
To supply images, email images to
shoreham.aircrash2015@sussex.pnn.police.uk
For more information on Shoreham plane accident go to:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3208226/Shoreham-airshow-plane-crash-disaster-did-pilot-run-sky.html#comments
I don't know about accidents to bystanders, but another article suggests that as many as 11 pilots have died since 2000, including one last month.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3208409/Calls-air-safety-rules-reviewed-police-warn-death-toll-Shoreham-crash-disaster-rise.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/shoreham-plane-crash-airshows-may-face-safety-restrictions-after-regulator-promises-review-10468474.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/shoreham-plane-crash-police-plea-over-graphic-images-of-air-show-accident-10468118.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-34038479
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34032142 Previous UK air crashes.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/23/shoreham-air-show-crash-first-three-victims-named
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviation/11818191/Plane-crashes-at-Shoreham-Air-Show-Live.html
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Shoreham-by-Sea,+West+Sussex/@50.8375902,-0.2736546,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x4875909d813fd7e7:0x9e685269ab8c33c2 (Google map of Shoreham and its proximity to Brighton.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoreham-by-Sea
http://www.shorehamairshow.co.uk
Angela Lansbury, travel writer, author.
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